Engine design

If in doubt, or it doesn't seem to fit elsewhere - put it here.

Engine design

Postby John H » Sat Jul 19, 2014 8:46 am

Modern bike engines are pretty sofisticated compared to vintage engines, in most cases. Vincents however, had one of the more complicated designs which makes them more difficult and expensive to rebuild. This is a drawing of the valve train I took to the meeting last week. It gets even more complicated when adding big valves, high lift cams, stroker crank and more rpm.
The valves are modified from Chev. big block. Cams are built up with Stelite hard facing and ground for higher lift and more duration. The crankshaft is stroked one inch. The bore is increased from 91mm to 94mm. This takes the motor from 998cc to 1650cc. It's a time consuming project but I'm enjoying it.
ValveTrane.jpg
ValveTrane.jpg (71.34 KiB) Viewed 42840 times
[i][color=#4040BF]John[/color][/i]
John H
 
Posts: 1097
Images: 8
Joined: Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:19 am
Location: Northwest

Re: Engine design

Postby ATinkerer » Sat Jul 19, 2014 9:14 am

Great effort John.
Will be interesting to hear it run after all the work you have put into it.

Gordn
If it isn't smoking, it's broken.
ATinkerer
 
Posts: 203
Images: 8
Joined: Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:04 pm
Location: Port Angeles, WA

Re: Engine design

Postby Dragonknee » Sun Jul 20, 2014 1:50 pm

I can't wait to hear and see it run.... Very cool project
User avatar
Dragonknee
 
Posts: 520
Joined: Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:50 pm

Re: Engine design

Postby John H » Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:08 am

In my project I try to simplify everything. On the other hand, I think George does the opposite.
Somewhere in this photo is a vintage Kawasaki 100cc motor with a 125cc Yamaha water cooked top end hooked to a supercharger. He's on schedule for Bonneville and a couple more records.
GEO.jpg
GEO.jpg (153.46 KiB) Viewed 42828 times
[i][color=#4040BF]John[/color][/i]
John H
 
Posts: 1097
Images: 8
Joined: Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:19 am
Location: Northwest

Re: Engine design

Postby Dragonknee » Wed Jul 30, 2014 7:44 am

John, I would like to see that up close again. Its dam interesting and not something normally around the garage at most peoples places...
User avatar
Dragonknee
 
Posts: 520
Joined: Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:50 pm

Re: Engine design

Postby John H » Wed Jul 30, 2014 10:15 pm

Jim, here's the other side of the 'candy machine'. George is in attack mode right now with last minute details before heading to Bonneville.
I plan to have another 'BBQ/show and tell' in late August so maybe George will bring the little racer again.
I met another local guy today that just started a Yamaha FZR Bonneville racer project for next year.

George r.jpg
[i][color=#4040BF]John[/color][/i]
John H
 
Posts: 1097
Images: 8
Joined: Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:19 am
Location: Northwest

Re: Engine design

Postby Dragonknee » Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:17 pm

Look forward to it..
User avatar
Dragonknee
 
Posts: 520
Joined: Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:50 pm

Re: Engine design

Postby John H » Fri Jan 30, 2015 12:04 am

Here's the latest in valve seat finishing.... Actually, it's from the 30s but works quite well. The grinding stone spins on an eccentric pilot and grinds only a small area of the seat at a time. I need to make some special pilots before I can actually use it.
IMG_0011.jpg
IMG_0011.jpg (130.51 KiB) Viewed 41661 times
[i][color=#4040BF]John[/color][/i]
John H
 
Posts: 1097
Images: 8
Joined: Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:19 am
Location: Northwest

Re: Engine design

Postby ATinkerer » Fri Jan 30, 2015 12:12 am

Orbital, mounting through the valve guide?

Gordon
If it isn't smoking, it's broken.
ATinkerer
 
Posts: 203
Images: 8
Joined: Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:04 pm
Location: Port Angeles, WA

Re: Engine design

Postby John H » Fri Jan 30, 2015 12:25 am

The stone orbits on the valve guide pilot at 15 rpm while the stone is running at 10,000 rpm.
[i][color=#4040BF]John[/color][/i]
John H
 
Posts: 1097
Images: 8
Joined: Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:19 am
Location: Northwest

Next

Return to General Discussion

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests